These are images from Charlottesville, Virginia last night.
These are white people in their twenties and thirties. Like me.
These are people who are in my generation, the millennial generation, the one frequently lambasted for “participation trophies” and “needing safe spaces.”
These are people that look like my coworkers, my colleagues, my brothers, my cousins. People I know and love, who also have white skin and wear polo shirts.
These are people who, like I was, were raised on a diet of Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood, which teaches tolerance and understanding of others. They’ve probably seen the Indiana Jones films, where punching Nazis is considered a virtuous act. These are my actual demographic peers in the United States of America, which means that these are people who sat through the unit on the second world war in their history class and looked at images of concentration camps and gas chambers and burning books and Anne Frank’s attic and still thought, well, hang on, maybe those Nazis had some interesting ideas.
These are people who chanted “Jew will not replace us.”
These are people who yelled “The heat here is nothing compared to what you’re going to get in the ovens.”
These are people who didn’t even bother to wear hoods.
What does it say that in 2017, I’m struck by the fact that the Ku Klux Klan members at least shielded their faces so that no one could identify them? That the same type of societal pressure apparently no longer exists today? That these people feel comfortable espousing the rhetoric of racist, genocidal maniacs in a public space that was widely photographed and broadcast?
My anger is bigger than my ability to write, but I’m going to try to say this as succinctly as I can.
White nationalism is morally indefensible. This is not a point that is up for discussion.
If you are willing to give these people the benefit of the doubt, you are complicit in the rhetoric of racists and bigots. Playing “devil’s advocate” is unacceptable.
I am not willing to listen to one more interview or read one more article about the “economic anxiety” of the American racist.
If you disagree with the central premise that white nationalism is evil and morally wrong, then I have no words for you. May God have mercy on your soul.
If you can identify that this is evil and wrong, ask yourself why these men (and more than a few women) are angry. Why? What has provoked these people to buy a bunch of Wal-Mart tiki torches and scream Nazi slogans at a Confederate statue?
Imagine for just one second that these protestors were black.
You want to tell me your problems with Colin Kaepernick and why you think Black Lives Matter is a racist slogan? I’m not interested. If you think that Philando Castille or Mike Brown could have just “handled it differently” and they wouldn’t have died? Imagine for one second that a mob of angry black people descended upon a public space with torches, screaming about wanting to kill those who didn’t look like them. Compare the crystal-clear images of these white men with the tear-gassed protestors from Ferguson.
This is a country where racists are empowered.
You failed to read all of those stories over the past five years from women on the internet, like Brianna Wu and Anita Sarkeesian and Lindy West? You thought those “feminists” were just “overreacting,” that there was no such thing as actual harassment from an internet troll, that their desire for online speech to have consequences when it devolved into doxxing and threats was a muzzle on free speech?
You still think that Hillary’s problems had nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman?
Welcome. This is a country where sexists are empowered. They’ve been on the internet terrorizing women for years. This is what they look like when they leave their computer screens behind.
I am no longer interested in anyone’s opinion that the Confederate Flag is merely a symbol of local heritage.
This is your heritage now.
I am no longer interested in your hot take on “economic anxiety.” On “giving President Trump a chance.” On “identity politics are ruining the country.” On “reverse racism.” On “all those swastikas drawn on buildings after the election were just put there by liberals trying to give conservatives a bad name.” I am no longer here for a peaceful discussion with the “other side,” when the “other side” believes that my inherent worth and humanity, and anyone else who doesn’t look or think similarly, deserves to be frightened, tortured, expelled, or harmed.
Women, people of color, religious and ethnic minorities, disabled people, gay people, trans people, and members of other marginalized groups in this country asked for their civil rights and their humanity to be respected. When you hear that the “left” are the “truly intolerant,” please remember that this is the face of the right today.
This is domestic terrorism. This is what it looks like.
I am no longer interested in anyone trying to tell me that being frightened of angry white men is ‘racist’ when angry white men commit the vast majority of mass shootings in our country. When they commit violent crimes at rates comparable to any other race, and far more often than women.
At the time of publication, many hours after these incidents, the President of the United States had yet to condemn this behavior.* This is not surprising information to literally anyone who has spent a scintilla of time on the internet — in Reddit’s /theDonald, in Alex Jones’ InfoWars channel, in the comment section of Breitbart, in any number of places where the overlap between nationalist views, white supremacist views, misogynistic views, xenophobic views, homophobic views, and Donald Trump’s political agenda is less of a Venn Diagram and more of a circle. The President of the United States was elected by dog-whistling to these views.
KKK leader David Duke is currently in Charlottesville ebulliently giving interviews claiming that this rally “fulfills the promises of Donald Trump.” For once, I agree with David Duke about something.
This is the natural byproduct of a racist, sexist president. This is the legacy of a racist, sexist country.
My fellow white Americans, do you see it? Do you see it now?
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I am editing this post to add information that I think is important. I struggled to write it earlier, and couldn’t quite find the words.
I think he says it better. I’m including it in its entirety.
Imagine if these people faced actual oppression.
Nobody is trying to legislate away their right to marry.
Nobody is trying to make them buy insurance to pay for “male health care.”The law never…
Enslaved their great-grandparents
Robbed their grandparents
Imprisoned their parents
Shot them when unarmed.There is no massive effort at the state and local level to disenfranchise them of the vote. There is no history of centuries of bad science dedicated to “proving” their intellectual inferiority. There is no travel ban on them because of their religion. There is no danger for them when they carry dangerous weapons publicly.
Their churches were never burned. Their lawns were never decorated with burning crosses. Their ancestors never hung from trees.
Their mothers aren’t being torn away by ICE troopers and sent away forever. They won’t be forced to leave the only country they ever knew. The president has not set up a hotline to report crime committed at their hands.
They are chanting “We will not be replaced.” Replaced… as what?
I’ll tell you.
Replaced as the only voice in public discussions. Replaced as the only bodies in the public arena. Replaced as the only life that matters.
THIS is ‘white people’ oppression: We used to be the only voice. Now we hold the only microphone. THIS is ‘white man’ oppression. We face criticism now. We were free from it, because others feared the consequences.
THIS is ‘oppression’ of white Christians in this country. Christmas used to be the only holiday acknowledged, now it’s not.
I would so love to see these people get all the oppression they insist they receive, just for a year. Just to see.
Give them a world where you ACTUALLY can’t say Christmas. A world where the name “Geoff” on a resume puts it in the trash. Give them a world where they suddenly get a 20% pay cut, and then 70 women every day tell them to smile more.
Give them a world where their polo shirt makes people nervous, so they’re kicked off the flight from Pittsburgh to Indianapolis.
Give them a world where they inherited nothing but a very real understanding of what oppression really fucking is.
Give them a world where if they pulled up on a campus with torches lit and started throwing hands, the cops would punch their eyes out. Put THAT in your Tiki torches and light it, you sorry Nazi bitches.
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** Yes, the President has, since I wrote this post, put out a weak-sauce tweet denouncing these events in the most vague of terms. Know how I know that it’s weak and vague? Richard Spencer, the Nazi responsible for this, has trolled it so effectively that we understand that it could apply to literally any side of this argument. Behold:
For the back of the house: no, all Trump voters are not white supremacists. YES, all Trump voters were comfortable electing a white supremacist to the highest office in the nation. This tweet is weak because the President doesn’t want to upset the members of his base because the members of his base are either okay with this or they are the very tiki-torch-lit assholes pictured above. These are guys wearing MAGA hats. These ARE the faces of your base. This IS the same rhetoric that Trump has always espoused. It’s Racism Classic™, now with Extra Tiki.
If you need further proof that the President doesn’t actually seem to care very much that this is happening in his name in his country, this side-by-side comparison of the President’s stance on white supremacist Nazis versus his strong condemnation of sharks.
** Edited a second time to add: the President of the United States, after one person has been confirmed dead after a car deliberately drove into a group of anti-racist counter-protestors, has just condemned these violent acts “on many sides.”
This is literally the same as saying that he condemns the violent actions of Nazis, as well as the groups protesting the Nazis.
All I’m saying is that if violent acts are happening in your name and endorsed by David Duke and perpetrated by people waving signs with your name on it and wearing hats with your catchphrase on it, after you have asked Jeff Sessions and the department of Justice to stop investigating white supremacist terror groups exactly like this one, and all you can say is “I condemn this on many sides” rather than “stop doing this in my name” or “white supremacy is not tolerated in this country” or without using the phrase “domestic terrorism,” you’ll have to forgive me for drawing the logical conclusion that the President of the United States, in choosing his words carefully so as not to offend a racist, torch-wielding mob, gives more fucks about the feelings of actual Nazis than anyone or anything else. If you’re willing to speak “off the cuff” about North Korean missile strikes or classified intel or fallen soldiers or disabled reporters or Gold Star families but recognize that your words have impact when you’re worried about offending ACTUAL NAZIS, may you and every single person who ever defended you feel a shame that burns hotter than any collection of tiki torches.
Nice speech. It’s full of lies and half truths, but interesting none the less. All of the injustices that you rant about are the product of socialists and the democratic party. So for you to place the blame for any of this on just any white person, especially a man, who loves this country, shows your lack of morals and hypocrisy. Conservatives, especially white conservative men, fought and died for civil rights for slaves and for the rights of women. Your a pathetic loser wallowing in your own deliberate ignorance.
Mr. Simpson, it appears you’ve had more than your share of the red cool aid. Clearly, there’s nothing morally wrong with having conservative points of view. But there is no valid defense for white supremacist ideology, and if you attack those who call out hatred and bigotry, well, that’s placing yourself on the wrong side of the good vs. evil conflict.
Brilliantly put, Mr. Howell.
So that would put you on the wrong side of the good vs evil conflict, right? By your own definition, Trump said there’s no place in America for violence, he condemned hatred and bigotry, and now you’re attacking him.
YOU are an idiot. I can’t say that I can’t believe that there are people who are actually as dumb as you are…because lately they have been showing their asses in ridiculous amounts…so much so that, unfortunately, I’m used to it. “Your a pathetic loser wallowing in your own deliberate ignorance.”… are you five? Grow up. Realize that YOU have just spewed lies and half truths in your comment. You are upset and whiny because the author of this post has called out your people for being a racist dumb-asses who feels entitled for their oppression. Seriously you are really foolish. Have a good day.
Source material? Links to the proof of these ‘lies?’ It simply sounds like you’re complaining. Make a decent case and maybe I’ll lend an ear, but until then you’ve got quite a long way to go.
What do you mean “your people”? You racist scumbag. Not all white people are racist. I hope you die a slow, miserable death for your hateful attitude
Well said Robert Simpson. While I do not believe in white supremacy, I do believe that all of the events on both sides were staged. Yes, the left did a lot of planning to make this the mess that it is.
Box12… I have one question:
How did you get THIS fucking dumb, dude
What specifically did the left plan?
So the left responds to a message of hate that was widely broadcast with a valid protest against hate. How is that a lot of planning. Equating those protesting against the racists and white supremacists with racists and white supremacists is a false equivalency. The only way for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. All of us who believe in racial equality and human justice need to be out there telling these racist they are not acceptable at all ever.
The Left celebrated and segregated by race but when they kicked the whites out they no longer have a “home”. So now it appears that the opposing force to the Left is to call them the Alt Right but it’s really still the Left. Get it.
I was there. It was not staged. Three people lost their lives. How dare you blame anyone but the nazis who showed up in our town.
Thank you!
You, sir are a certifiable bigoted asshole.
Conservatives, especially white conservative men, fought and died for denying civil rights for slaves and for denying the rights of women.
It was radical liberals who fought and died for civil rights for slaves and for the rights of women.
Erm… The Republican Party was the party who freed the slaves, passed the civil rights amendment and passed the amendments necessary to give former slaves voting rights. It was most definitely the Democratic Party who throughout history fought against these things. The idea of a great switch is a myth. The Republican Party has remained committed to the founding documents. It is the Democratic Party who has consistently fought against those ideals and still is today.
Ahh, the typical I don’t know shit about history answer. Up until the civil rights movement in the 50’s and 60’s the Rebublicans were the Liberal party and the Democrats were the conservative party. Then this group called the Dixiecrats defected from the democratic party and joined the republicans. Thus the shifting of ideals of the 2 parties happened. This is a historical FACT. The names stayed the same but the ideologies shifted 180 degrees. You should really study up on what happened in our past and get informed. This shift is also why the republicans used to be the party of the unions and now are the party of the capitalist. The liberal progressive ideal is what always moves us forward as a society.
The Republican Party of 1860 is not the Republican Party of the 21st century. Mr. Lincoln must be rolling in his grave at the things his party are responsible for today.
Are you saying, Mark, that Nazis are Democrats?
Mark: What happened to the “Republican” who freed the slaves? Maybe he was assassinated by a nice white southerner? The voting rights act was passed in 1964 by LBJ who was anything but a Repub. Hope your kids have a better grasp on history than you.
What’s an Erm?
You obviously dont know much about history because if you did then you would realize that the democrats back in the 1700/1800s would be classified as republicans in this day an age and the Republican back then would now be classified as modern democrats you fucking idiot. Please don’t voice your opinion if your facts are true. Maybe go back to college and take a fucking course and acquire some logic. The ideals of the party have changed tremendously over the centuries. Check facts before you go ranting inaccurate information.
Wow, wow, wow are you ridiculously uneducated, or didn’t pay attention to history. Ross (below) answers this question appropriately. Let’s also not forget the freemen, non-Americans, and other folk that freed the slaves other than jsut “white men.”
You’re telling me that all those nazi’s and white supremacists at the rally were actually Democrats? History wasn’t your best subject, was it?
So the Republican party freed the slaves, which is a good thing right? So those that fought against freeing the slaves were bad and should not be celebrated with statues? Sorry hard to keep everything straight.
Well apparently Ross and Typo Sultan you do not know your history either. First of all the Dixiecrats did not join the republican party they were an extremest splinter group of the Democrats who still ran on the basis of the Democratic platform except for the added racism and segregation. If the switch happened as you claim in the 50’s and 60’s then why in the 1932 did an overwhelming majority of African-Americans vote for FDR, when in the previous election (1928) remained loyal to the Republican party and overwhelmingly voted for Hoover. It had to do with the economic implications of the New Deal. So again the switch had nothing to do with the liberal progressive ideals it all had to do with economic benefits. Now you’ll probably say all the racists moved to the Republican party in the 50’s and 60’s after all the civil rights acts were passed. Well you would be wrong again. The shift in the South did not occur until the Regan era, again due to the economic benefits promised under deregulation and free markets. Again nothing to do with race. So my overarching point to the two of you is before you open your mouth you should probably do a little research before looking foolish, because both of you obviously have no grasp on what you are talking about.
Also fun facts: LBJ was an ardent racist who opposed every civil rights bill in Texas, the only reason he passed the voting rights act was pressure from the house and senate who wanted JFK’s legislation passed.
Democrats did not want African-Americans to benefit from the New Deal so they banned farming and field workers from receiving social security and other benefits of the New Deal. It wasn’t until 1954 with a REPUBLICAN house, senate, and presidency, that African-Americans could participate and in social security and other benefits the New Deal promised them 30 years before
“why in the 1932 did an overwhelming majority of African-Americans vote for FDR, when in the previous election (1928) ”
A statement without context…sheesh. An overwhelming majority of everyone voted for FDR because the country was in the middle of the great depression. Blame was placed squarely at Hoover’s feet. That’s why.
get them to google Goldwater.
You’re arguing over semantics. The true argument isn’t over the definition of “republican” or “democrat,” it is over the ideals that define past and current groups of thinking. The modern democratic party’s constituency has a larger African American base and generally stands for socialist ideals with the intention of achieving equality (socio-economic, racial, gender, educational, etc.). Radical constituents of this party fight for equality on a very liberal basis (such as defining animals as people), sometimes to the point of violent extremism. The modern republican party typically supports ideals that minimize government involvement and a highly capitalist economy, and includes radical constituents that fight for the dehumanization and inequality of various groups, often also leading to violence.
Historical perspective on the names of the political parties and what they previously stood for is irrelevant. It does not connect or align with what the current parties stand for nor who they represent. These words, “republican” and “democrat,” in reference to political parties, has changed. If they hadn’t, then ALL republicans would quickly condemn white supremacy groups who claimed to represent their party, especially if the party identified themselves as liberators and purveyors of racial equality. Unfortunately, that simply is not the case. While there are likely many republicans who stand for racial equality, there is a noticeable sum that stands for the opposite in favor of white christian males holding more power than others. Evidence of this includes David Duke’s endorsement of the republican presidential nominee, the current political alignment of white supremacists with the republican party, and the growing radicalism of the alt-right’s agenda to engage in a cultural revolution that celebrates white men.
I personally continue to hope that the president succeeds in uniting us as a nation, and regularly find myself disappointed to find his condemnation of nationalist (and other disgusting) values lacking. Just come out and say “white supremacy is wrong.” It isn’t difficult. Although it shouldn’t have to, this condemnation goes hand-in-hand with the teachings of the bible and the modern interpretations of our Declaration of Independence, which claims that all people are created equal. And yes, I said interpretation – the document was originally intended to be a living document, and although our culture is unfortunately still somewhat conflicted, we are evolving as a society to the point where we can all consider every human being as an equal and strive toward true equality.
“Conservatives, especially white conservative men, fought and died for civil rights for slaves and for the rights of women.” The Republican Party you are speaking of was the liberal party…some would even say the radical party…as in the Radical Republicans who were responsible for Reconstruction. A little historical perspective please.
Troll. Raised by wolves.
Which one? This entire comment section has been quite successfully skewed off course by troll comments! It has so quickly devolved into an argument about the nature of the Democratic and a Republican parties I can’t even say it’s off topic. Hey guys, what about the essay above all this bickering?! What DO you think about that?!
Mister Simpson! You are a Nazi, right? At least your profile picture is a Svastika…kinda.
So I take it you are biased towards white supremacy.
And you are a Trumpster, no?
You are using the same tactic the Trumpsters use which is ” blame it on the opponent”. So, whenever anything bad is happening in your name, rather than ownibg it, you blame it on the unlikeliest (if that is a word) of people.
Trump blames Obama or Hillary and you blame Socialists (in the USA?????Realy?!?!) or Dems.
Keep in mind that racists, rather like assholes, come in all political and religious shades
I, for one, feel ashamed of racists,right-wingers, mysogenist, homophobics and people that are trying to defend them.
doesn’t the software design and show these icons because the poster has no picture associated with their name – so how can you plausibly draw a conclusion that the icon generated by the software is Nazi related and s=chosen by the poster- you are hard core off the wall in your comment and owe the poster an apology for such an accusation.
I think these icons were designed to look like squares on a quilt. Their similarity to the Nazi Swastika is unfortunate.
You need lessons in grammar first off….Secondly you need to wake up.
That is what my comment mentioned, too! Scroll down to see it🤣
Robert….
Seriously…?
Somehow, someway you seriously need to untwist your brain. You are incredibly screwed up if you actually stand by your statement.
I seriously feel bad for you, get help now!
That all a like. Too bad your hate overrides your common sense.
I grew up in apartheid South Africa. I know what this is. If you don’t, learn fast because it destroys the perpetrators too in the end.
The only two comments I see here that are really worth reading are very short, sharp and to the point. Yours and the person who was actually in Charlottesville. I just wanted you to know that at least one person hears you.
I live in Canada and am proudly a Canadian….thank God! Do you have, or care what the rest of the world thinks of this Nazi/White Nationalist/Hate speech coming from Americans and this nut job you have for a President. Are we seriously even talking about this in this century??? Where has the moral compass gone? it’s absolutely terrifying.
Wow, what history books did you “learn” from, nasty boy? Confederate soldiers fought to defend the right to own other people, to use them for profit and breeding and abuse – keep your southern honor crap.
Your words are clear and demonstrate with no room for doubt that you are a brain-dead man full of hate and totally misguided. May G-d have mercy on your soul – I certainly have no mercy for you.
Fuck thus Nazi rioters, fuck mr simpson, fuck anyone who support them..bunch of motherfuckers!
I am a Grammar Nazi. If I had a red pen, I would correct the numerous mistakes in your post. I see a few misplaced commas. It should be, “You’re a pathetic loser…blah, blah, blah.” Proper placement of apostrophes is very important. It’s the difference between, “Their pieces of shit,” and, “They’re pieces of shit.”
Why is it always the arguments for Trump are filled with misspellings and punctuation errors? Can’t be a coincidence.
If you’re Christian, what do you love most God or country? Should you do what Jesus would do, or would you rather do what your little mind tells you?
Not just Christians, most Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding citizens. Most people are.It is only the few who encourage violence that we need to educate.
Thanks, Katherine. Please keep up the good work. Thanks for showing the courage to draw fire from alt-reich tools like Robert Simpson. The ignorance of his comment is evident and a clear sign that you’re saying the things that need to be said, by white people, to white people. Great post.
Not an American but very much white and living in a country where the Alt-Right also is on the rise (The Netherlands) combined with the fact I am from a generation that had parents and grandparents actually surviving the horrors of WWII I am in full agreement with your blog. The things happening now in the USA make it that Trump and his coons are no longer JUST a US problem but a problem to us all. In that light, I hope the “positive” outcome of this disaster is that Republicans are gonna choose Country over Party before they pull us into a WWIII in which part of this war becomes a US Civil war
Please be careful with your English, I realize that you’re not a native speaker being Dutch, but am assuming, that like most Dutch speakers of English yours is near mother-tongue level. “Coon” is a disparaging way to refer to black people and is considered only slightly better than the “n” word. Crazy people are “loons.” “Cracker” is a disparaging way to speak about white people, especially racist ones.
Thank you for the correction, Loon is the word I should have used. I apologize to anyone that I might have offended.
maybe he meant goons. that would fit.
Actually “coons” was very much intentional without realizing the history this word has. I used it because it is a name used by the “person” I hate the most on television… Cartman. Had I known it’s … heritage, I would have either used another word or made it more clear why I used it 😉 (then again… CARTMAN… I should have guessed it was something nasty lol)
Hahaha, no, I like “coons” better. I actually laughed out loud when I saw this! 😀
Thank you!!!
Robert Simpson – you need a LOT of History lessons. White AND black men fought against slavery – as soon as black men were allowed in the Union Army. Poor Southern whites died in thousands to defend slavery – an “institution” that actually harmed their own circumstances, while producing huge profits for the “landed” class. The descendants of those poor whites have been deceived by the Republican Party into voting for rich white guys who hate labor unions – which are the only weapon of working people. The Party has successfully sold the fiction that white people are under siege from the “Left”. I’m tired of writing to people who descend to rage and obscenity..but perhaps you’ll be one who actually reads some History. Or not.
Simpson has to be a bot. Known one could believe that crap.
These horrid racists who believe in white supremacy should all be treated to an ancestry DNA. They are so uneducated and so full of hate the results of the DNA would freak them out. THEIR descendants are from the Middle East or Africa. There is no such thing as White Supremacy because their is no such thing as a pure race. The only thing these people actually have is white privilege and therein lies the problem. They have no reality other then hate. Every white person in this country, young, old, faithful, faithless, whoever you are, and stand up and speak loudly, NO! THESE GROUPS MUST BE STOPPED! As a white woman I am so ashamed and angry and I will accept no one in my life, family or friend, who does not speak out LOUDLY against this. We are humans, they are animals.
A few valid points shrouded in a mantle of judgement. Just what the world needs more of. Do I believe one race is superior over another? Absolutely not. God made his beloved children in every shade of humanity. You make a long list of things that you believe qualify as oppression as well as those that don’t. Who are you to say what makes someone qualified to cry oppression and others not? According to you, maybe I am qualified. I’m white, and a black man killed my precious grandfather when I was sixteen. That was 35 years ago. I should have had my grandfather much longer than that. Is someone going to pay me reparations for those lost years? Huh? Where’s my pound of flesh?
I guarantee you this–the lost of my grandfather by murder would not have been one iota less painful, devastating or traumatic if he had been white like us. One race killing another is not a hate crime. Murder is a hate crime. Period. I don’t support what went on in Charleston. I don’t support tearing down Confederate Monuments either.
Don’t condemn one racist protest by justifying others. Just don’t.
The loss of your grandfather by murder does not equal the loss of your grandfather to slavery. Those two things are simply not equal.
For what it’s worth, imagine your grandfather’s murderer was a statue, and then tell me you don’t support tearing it down.
Mrs T you win the internet. Great comment.
Amazing post! Both of them. I am always surprised by the anger and name calling that occurs when some ones views are challenged or maybe its just guilt fueled bile floating to the surface and the easiest way to deal with that for some is to respond is to call the writers out of name. This is when I stop listening. Thanks Katherine for the post, and Steven for making your voice heard here in the comments.
Brilliantly said. This is a good vs evil fight and any decent person, regardless of D or R affiliation, will side with the good.
Thank you for your articulate blog–and I appreciated getting a “push” via email.
This person is a bigoted Leftist piece of crap 💩
You have been checking out prices on those tiki torches at Walmart, lately Paul?
Why must you call this writer a bigoted leftist poc instead of explaining how your thoughts differ? it never ceases to amaze me how when the conversation becomes above someones intellectual limits they panic like ole Paul here and begin name calling! thanks for showing the exact caliber of intellect you are quickly!
Nice article Katherine! keep up the good work!
suggest you read some of the comments made here name calling and questioning the intelligence of anyone not on your train of thought because you have just called out those on your side who are doing the same thing Paul just did.
Thank you for your eloquently written words. Powerful, thought-provoking, insightful, and appreciated…my sentiments exactly.
Thank you for speaking out. It’s chilling to hear people misuse the word racism to attack those who condemn hatred and bigoted acts. And it’s frightening to think that there seem to be many people out there who don’t see what’s wrong with their misuse of words. I hope that one day we’ll have a better understanding of what causes racism and hate movements so we can work to prevent them.
I read this on Facebook earlier. I am glad to be able to tell you wonderful your words are. Thank you.
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I am a white male who wears polo shirts. That is where the similarity ends. I used to be a card-carrying Young Republican, a sin from which I have long since repented. I, too, refuse to sit quietly and listen to their ridiculous justification for ignorant propaganda and outright lies. The losers pictured in the article are nothing but a bunch of shame-based spoiled brats who are blinded by their own traumas. They try to blame their emotional pain on others, rather than take an honest look at themselves to see what they can fix in their own lives. You see, I have been to Germany. I speak the language. I visited Buchenwald and stared into the ovens. If I ever see someone carrying a Nazi flag or giving a Nazi salute, I will drop them where they stand with no second thoughts and no remorse.
That is what any decent human being would do. You are a credit to your country Sir.
Amen! ❤
and you will be charged with assault and battery for said action and might even be charged with federal hate crime – while I don’t agree with Nazi salutes, I also do not agree with black power salutes either. Both are signs of power against others and if you don’t believe me then as the black panthers why they use it?
Ron, calling republicanism a sin is way too generalistic and is a sign of what’s wrong with current political discourse. My grandmother’s parents immigrated from east Europe. They made it before Hitler rose to power. Hardly any of their siblings were as fortunate. My grandmother knew almost none of her aunts, uncles, cousins, or grandparents, because they worshiped in a way that was viewed as inferior. Even today, these sentiments remain. There are people -such as those in the rally- who hate her, and who hate me, because they think we have “inferior blood”. And yet, I am often said to be one of these people because I vote republican. Because I think things work better when we have free market capitalism, I am said to be the very person who despises me. Am I disappointed by my president’s response to this crisis? Do I believe he should to more to disassociate his name with this hate? Both yes, but I also think that calling republicans at fault for this is just a poor attempt to try to define your enemy. Yes, true racists do tend to vote republican, but that in no way means all republicans are racist. They can’t control who supports them. Democrats have the support of communists, yet they are never said to all belong to that group. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have been called white supremacists when they are not even white. This weekend has showed us what true white supremacism is like, it’s not believing immigration laws should be enforced as this article claims.
I will be criticized for this, doubt but please stop trying to define me by a skin tone. White is not a culture, its just a Skin tone..American is culture, Muslim is culture, Southern is culture. White is not. A culture shares a common set of beliefs, dress, and language at the very least.
Therefore, when you define people by skin tone you are being just as racist as the KKK, Neo Nazi’s, and any other bigoted group in America, and this definitely a problem on the Left and the Right. Why? Because you assume that all people of the same skin tone walk, talk, and believe the same. That is clearly not the case.
If you don’t like being defined by your skin tone: welcome. This is what people of color experience every single day. I do not at all believe that “all people of a race think the same” — but friend, all white people benefit in society from having been born with white skin and that’s just the truth of it. I suggest reading “invisible knapsack” to understand.
I call bullshit. Let me just reframe this so that you understand how ridiculous you sound. Here’s your entire rant changing only one specific word. “If you don’t like being defined by your skin tone: welcome. This is what people of color experience every single day. I do not at all believe that “all people of a race think the same” — but friend, all black people benefit in society from having been born with black skin and that’s just the truth of it. I suggest reading “invisible knapsack” to understand.” You see, you’re at it again with your trash narrative. You are no better than a white nationalist with your rhetoric. Nobody is benefiting merely by having a specific skin color. Quit feeding your trash to unsuspecting people hungry for anything….
White privilege is real. Denying it does not delete it’s very real existence. Bullshit on your refusal to acknowledge the reality of America today. White men on average earn more than anyone, if blessed with a “non-ethnic” name are more likely to receive an invitation to a job interview, can show up to a protest armed and ready for a fight and are allowed to melee by the police. If you think an angry mob of non-white, torch wielding supremacists chanting racial epithets would be allowed to march unmolested by police or security you are being willfully ignorant.
Dear Madame, I would like to offer you my support and encouragement for standing up for what is right, for your fellow Americans who are being so grievously abused and persecuted and for showing us who look at the USA from abroad or even just next door -I’m Canadian :), that there are people who will state the truth without hesitation. May the genuine spirit of American democracy prevail over these heinous collection of racist folk. Best Regards!
Absolutely brilliant! Agree 💯 %
This inspired my latest post. I wanted to leave a comment but felt the need to write more. I have been enjoying your blog!
It is very brave of you to speak up for what is right Katherine. It is very sad to see this happening in the United States. I used to admire your country for being the most tolerant of different races and I have always seen US as the land where people of all races can feel the safest. I have the utmost respect and admiration for your country. After all, America once liberated my own country from the Japanese colonizers. I admire your country even more because you seemed to live together in harmony regardless of different backgrounds and skin color. Your most talented basketball players are black and a lot of great singers and celebrities too (Nothing wrong with black, black is beautiful. Filipinos are also called brown and there’s nothing wrong with brown either. White too is beautiful. Let’s all love who we are and love others for who they are and not for the color of their skin). However, this thing that happened in Charlottesville, Virginia is really sad. I can never understand why anyone would want to follow in Hitler’s footsteps. Whoever thinks the Nazis did something right, you people need God in your life. Clearly, you have no God and God doesn’t know you.
Well done.
Beautifully Written! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤
Please call them white supremacists. Nationalists make it sound like they support ALL Americans. And a reminder that the counter protesters are not leftists (socialists), they’re just people.
That’s true, but hell, don’t go and get called white or you’re part of the problem, according to the author…
Fantastic job Les! No one could have said it better. He’s a racist n sex abuser. He should be made to register on the sex predators list
He should be removed from office, inc the VP. Then his cabinet removed n hopefully we’ll get to elect a true american.
……speechless!
I’ll agree with your sentiment, but stuff such as:
“Imagine for one second that a mob of angry black people descended upon a public space with torches, screaming about wanting to kill those who didn’t look like them.”
Well, people protest all the time. Black people too. This idea that “Oh, just imagine if they were black; they would be shot down.” That is just BS. The Black Panthers protested, the Nation of Islam marches. The Million Man March was a thing.
That is all and excuse my grammar-fails.
BS – the responses by police and the media to black protesters is very different. After all, though the white supremacist’s protest ended in violence and death, it is not being referred to as a “riot” as many BLM protests were in the recent past. Police officers did not move in with billy clubs, hoses or dogs as they did on Black Panther marches. We are not hearing about racist “thugs” boiling for a fight, even though hundreds of angry white supremacists marched the night before, with torches, chanting “Blood & Soil”. The police are. It color-blind, the response on Saturday very much reflected the skin tone of those spewing hate.
If you’re gonna get mad over labels then you need to grow up
I have to say, horrible as these people are, they have always been here. This is what I call
“the poison being sucked from the wound.” It’s one of the reasons I actually think Trump’s presidency is positive. These fucking idiots think Trump is making it okay for them to come out of the woodwork. It’s an absolute fallacy – just because a white conservative guy came into office after a black liberal, these KKK and Nazi losers see it as “we’re taking the country back.” They feel empowered on ERROR. Trump (from what I see) doesn’t endorse any of this shit. These morons think he does. These morons have been lulled into a false sense of security, perhaps. Now they’re out, and they’ve got a target on their backs. Let me repeat: THESE kinds of people are the ones who need to be afraid. Not blacks, whites, liberals, conservatives, Latinos, Muslims, men, women, straight, gay. The people who will be exterminated in the coming decades are idiotic extremists (and I’m sorry, it’s not just white conservative males) and the purveyors of their outdated ideologies.
Finally somebody with a brain 😩
Brilliant!
The problem with identity politics is that everything is done in YOUR name.
I reject identity politics for that reason – even when it is not so obviously racist.
Not in MY name.
Well written.
One suggestion.. we need to stop comparing the Philando Castile case to the Michael Brown case. Although both are disturbing under similar circumstances, there was uncertainty of what exactly happened in the Michael Brown case. Conflicting witness accounts and the only video we saw of that day was Brown committing a strong arm robbery. Still a tragic outcome but to directly relate it to Philando Castile after seeing/hearing the dash cam video evidence and how that all unfolded is not right in my opinion. Philando had done nothing wrong and hadn’t shown any violent or aggressive behavior. He was polite and well mannered, lawfully carrying a firearm, respectfully responding to the police after having been pulled over 50+ times. Tying it to cases where there is doubt and uncertainty is not fair to Philando.
As a girl from the north who attended college in VA, the polo shirt/bow tie/searsucker crowd has always made me nervous.
Judging a book by its cover? Kinda racist.
Thank you for this thoughtful post!!!!
defending the utterings of this president (who has the IQ – but not the tastefulnes – of mayonnaise, won’t do – if only for the merit of mayonnaise – which has many redeeming qualities
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This is so on point. I am calling for a complete ban of public display of the confederate flag in public places as a display of racism. This flag is the symbol of a group of treasonous men who attempted to establish a government based on the enslavement of other human being based on the colon of their skin. The United Stated fought a bloody war and prevailed and these rebellious states were accepted back into the Union on States but under no circumstances should those traitorous political and military leaders of that failed confederacy and the racism it represented been celebrated. That mistake needs to be corrected immediately. It only continues the fallacy that those symbols are “heritage” instead of the poisonous reminder of slavery and those who wanted to perpetuate it. The founding fathers of our country who were slave owners exhisted in a time before this great issue of conscious came to the forefront of our political decision. For the most part history judges them as men of great principle. I believe they would have made the choice of true liberty for all. Our country needs to move beyond fear. Fear of difference. Inability or unwillingness to understand the difference is key. We have to move forward but how.
This. This. This. This. So much this. “THIS is ‘white people’ oppression: We used to be the only voice. Now we hold the only microphone. THIS is ‘white man’ oppression. We face criticism now. We were free from it, because others feared the consequences.”
I’m not going to venture into the comments here today, I just don’t have it in me to deal with what things have become. Your words are exactly what I’ve been feeling since Saturday. Thank you for being able to convey them when I haven’t been able to. I will come back and read comments when I have more room in my head to not explode over the world we are living in right now.
Well written. Thank you.
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I am a white nationalist based on these two facts: I am white, AND I believe in and support this nation before all other nations. (Nationalism) The media is using the term “white nationalist” as a synonym for “white supremacist” and they are NOT the same. I detest white supremacy. Please be careful with the difference in these terms. Unless you feel that I should be ashamed to be white or support this country?
Heather, white nationalism means that you value this nation above all other nations. Ok…. but this is a nation that is founded on the bedrock principle that immigration makes us all stronger, that diversity is encouraged and welcomed. It’s a central part of the American belief system. I have yet to meet a single white nationalist who told me about their pro-diversity, pro-immigrant policies, and as such, white nationalists are often de facto white supremacists. I’d love to hear more, if you are a white nationalist who encourages and champions diversity and immigration efforts, to understand how from your perspective those two things are not related.
America is letting too many immigrants in and it’s taking a toll. In most countries u have to prove that you can make a living in that country before you move there. America just lets anyone in, SOME (only some) don’t want to work and just hold their hand out expecting a check. It’s not fair to the American taxpayer when so many people are living off of them. This is just another problem in America. Everyone feels that they are special no matter what, and think they deserve heaps of money for doing nothing. America is screwed the way it’s going.
Why do you identify as white? Does it give you some form of privilege? Why can’t you just stand for this nation and be a Patriot? You have chosen a collectivist moniker and will be judged as such.
Thank you! Both your own and the wonderful post you re-post here are just right. Brave and right, and funny as hell, and sad and true all at once.
I’m shocked at the number of people defending Nazis and white nationalists while saying things all the way at the end of the crazy spectrum, like “I do believe that all of the events on both sides were staged. Yes, the left did a lot of planning to make this the mess that it is.” I wish I could laugh at such a deranged statement but can’t, it’s too sick. Quoting an excellent the writer of this excellent article, “If you disagree with the central premise that white nationalism is evil and morally wrong, then I have no words for you. May God have mercy on your soul.”
Most of us aren’t defending THEM we’re defending they’re right to have free speech, even those idiots deserve free speech whether you like it or not, even if we don’t agree with and hate their views on racial stuff. Other groups such as BLM are trying to take away their free speech, and in a way are condoning more hate and voilence than the white nationalists are. If we just ignore them they’re gonna go away.
Stop trying to say that this is trumps fault or that he wanted this he said multiple times that he absolutely does not agree with what they are doing.
When the Nazis are thrilled with your press conference, it’s a good sign he clearly didn’t mean it.
Those idiot think that he’s on their side, even though he definitely isn’t. you’re basing you’re opinion off of the white supremacists assumptions so technically you’re agreeing with them.
You’re literally basing your opinion on what the white supremacists are assuming so that means that you’re agreeing with them. Think about that, you’re agreeing with the white supremacists, and you may think I’m blindly following trump , well maybe ur just blindly hating him. I’m done arguing with such a close minded person goodbye.
That’s like saying, “If there’s a volcano eruption in the Pacific Ocean, then God is angry with the nation of Greece.” This is what I mean by my opinion adding to the conversation, Katherine. You’re a smart lady. But then you make these LEAPS of illogical rantings that only serve your base.
You can’t say that there aren’t any absolutely crazy ass people on the left too. Trump is NOT pro-white supremist, he has stated that he does not like what they’re doing. It is racist to be scared of an angry white man only if you’re scared because he is white, I would be equally scared of an angry white man as I would an angry black, Chinese, Indian, etc man. The author is obviously just hating on white people and trump and writing it off as hating on white supremacists( I’m not defending them I think that white supremacists are assholes). This whole post is a big racist lie.
Ease the Tension
Love is much less stressful than hate
So let’s play the guilt by association game for a second. The left likes to try to assert some great moral authority and paint EVERYONE of an opposing ideology or viewpoint into some “ism” box or phobia. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, transphobia, etc… They do this so that if anyone has a similar viewpoint, even if it’s totally unrelated to whatever is obviously vile or disgusting about the fringe group they are trying to associate you with, then your thoughts or feelings or even humanity are null and void. They don’t matter anymore. We’ll I would like to point out the economic policies of Hitler and you can play the guilt by association game with it. What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. Which party resembles this more? I’m a conservative and I’m smart enough to know that while most of you argue for these same policies, it doesn’t make you Nazis. It just means you have something in common with them. That being said, trying to argue that EVEN Nazis have a right to free speech without being assaulted is not defending their views, but rather the freedom that allows them to do so. It brings no joy to hear their filth, but if we don’t defend their right to espouse their vile opinions then we only bring ourselves closer to a day when only approved speech is tolerated, another Hitlarian policy, and that’s a scary thought. With freedom comes great responsibility. Sometimes it means eating a turd sandwich to preserve it…like defending a white supremacists freedom of speech. Now, I’ve said my piece. I fully expect to be called an “ism” or a “phone” of some kind, but I hope I’m wrong.
These types of articles are only helping their cause by giving them more media attention. I bet the teeny tiny percentage of Nazi’s in America feel pretty famous and emboldened right now. While I strongly disagree with their views, I believe that every idiot in America has a right to free speech. It’s up to everyone else whether or not they want to start an idiot war.
I must admit, I have never read a more articulate exposay on progressive though in my intone life. I applaud the fervent and deeply felt views on racism, fascism and all isms. I would love to know how a such a mentally challenged person such as yourself is actually able to type such a long piece let alone have so few grammatical errors. That’s hard for many knowledgeable people. I might even send you a trophy for your supreme effort. Good job! 😄
I don’t usually stoop to this level, but you want to check your own spelling/grammar? Just saying.